Mukouda kami !!!

00:00 ~ 00:39: Takashi Mukouda
00:40 ~ 1:09 Boya Liang (Mukouda AD)
1:10 ~ 1:26: Takashi Mukouda AD
1:27 ~ end: Mix of Fukuda (spike/block?) Mukouda (the rest?)

Fukuda and Mukouda finally worked on an episode together but its really hard to tell their scenes apart, nonetheless its amazing to see....

That little light flare when the ball dropping is being reflected in Kita's eyes is such nice touch. The kind of thing that makes a scene sticks with you.

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KamKKF said:
00:00 ~ 00:46: Takashi Mukouda
00:47 ~ 1:01 Unknown
1:02 ~ 1:26: Takashi Mukouda again?
1:27 ~ end: Sachiko Fukuda???

Fukuda and Mukouda finally worked on an episode together but its really hard to tell their scenes apart, nonetheless its amazing to see....

Interesting ! I had a pretty different guess (that includes credited Hideki Takahashi), but I totally agree with your final statment !

Cut 1 : Sachiko Fukuda (especially giving what she did for episode 13 cut 7 ; 17 cut 15 [1 min 02] and 7 cut 8 ).

Cut 2-16 (from 0:02 to 0:40) : Takashi Mukouda (though cuts 7 to 13 looks a bit ""messy"" in a similar way to what Fukuda used to do in the first part of the season, so I don't know)

Cut 17-22 (0:40 - 0:57) : Unknown

Cut 23 (0:57) : Hideki Takahashi ? (and may be for some of the cut before ?)

Cut 24-40 (0:58 - 1:35): Mukouda again (Probably not everything, but I would absolutely see him on cut 40)

Cut 41-43 (1:36 - 1:47) : Sachiko Fukuda

Cut 44 (last cut) : Mukouda again, (based on my Mukou-sense)
(obviously it's only a guess and nothing more).

The sense of timing is estonishing on each and every cut, no matter who was behind. And everything is made with a prodigious saving in frames, everything is mostly on 3's (and yeah those 1 second freeze-frame; truly memorable !).

I've actually been thinking about the cut distribution for awhile now so I'm glad you commented so I can give further thoughts on the guesses. I'd say the first cut is definitely Mukouda, because of the "crease" or just use of shading in particular. I think this is one of the easiest ways to tell them apart (that i ended up overlooking in the later cuts unfortunately). From what I've gathered Fukuda doesn't really follow Mukoudas way of shading characters. The cut definitely feels like Fukudas past works but I think that's due to their similar styles of animation. https://imgur.com/a/GKPLylL

From :40 the art-style definitely changes to feel a lot less Mukouda like but because of the smears I believe its either him or Fukuda. I'm guessing because of how on model it is its Fukuda but at the same time its a little hard to tell. I've been debating this part since the original comment... https://imgur.com/xipTxKr - Cant comment much on the middle half because it feels like the style changes at least twice. I have to comment that in the middle of an already amazing scene the cut at :57 really stands out for me, great approach to realism and also just a really solid crowd shot altogether. I have to wonder who animated it because its masterfully done. Reminds me of Shinji Suetomis time on the show. Would love to see it confirmed one day.

The cut at :58 I don't think is Mukouda mostly because of the smears being uncharacteristic of him, there's still a chance its him but I kind of doubt it, definitely worth noting though. As for the cuts that follow its probably the most confusing part of the scene. I'd say 1:16 ~ 1:26 caught my eye for not looking much like Mukoudas approach (pretty weird but I'd rather say it now rather than never) then up until 1:25 is his work. I'd say the block is definitely not Mukouda because of the approach to anatomy and shading. It honestly doesn't look strongly like Fukuda but thats a better guess as the cut that follows is 100% one of them (likely mukouda again til the end of the post...???). I really don't know what Fukuda exactly did in this sequence but I'd like to know one day. Maybe its possible that Episode #22 took a lot of her time and she wasn't able to do many cuts for this one.

00;58 got that realistic style and anatomy more in the likes of suetomi ,I think it's different than both mukouda and fukuda
up to 00:39 I think it's safe to say Mukouda
I guess the block part to be fukuda,it got that tendons and rough straight lines of her art

my favourite part and most confusing for me is 1:10 to 1:15 ( the twins slow motion part )

but whoever did it,that part is my favourite and the 00;58 sec

the 00:58 sec
is really mindblowing when you get to really absorb and focus on it,every character is a great sakuga material
I want to know who did it ?

I guess if suetomi were in the credits someone would have mentionned it,
hope someone can get us, who did it

https://twitter.com/Ahmedmedhat000/status/1337728607733604354

KamKKF said:
I've actually been thinking about the cut distribution for awhile now so I'm glad you commented so I can give further thoughts on the guesses. I'd say the first cut is definitely Mukouda, because of the "crease" or just use of shading in particular. I think this is one of the easiest ways to tell them apart (that i ended up overlooking in the later cuts unfortunately). From what I've gathered Fukuda doesn't really follow Mukoudas way of shading characters. The cut definitely feels like Fukudas past works but I think that's due to their similar styles of animation. https://imgur.com/a/GKPLylL

Mhh I see I see. Interesting ! seems fair but in the same time Mukouda never has never drawn the shoes this way, and Fukuda is kind of the only one who did so (But In the same time, their influence is certainly mutual, and I can't see way mukouda couldn't try to imitate her gimmick).

From :40 the art-style definitely changes to feel a lot less Mukouda like but because of the smears I believe its either him or Fukuda. I'm guessing because of how on model it is its Fukuda but at the same time its a little hard to tell. I've been debating this part since the original comment... https://imgur.com/xipTxKr - Cant comment much on the middle half because it feels like the style changes at least twice. I have to comment that in the middle of an already amazing scene the cut at :57 really stands out for me, great approach to realism and also just a really solid crowd shot altogether. I have to wonder who animated it because its masterfully done. Reminds me of Shinji Suetomis time on the show. Would love to see it confirmed one day.

Yeah I have to say I wanted to say it was Fukuda looking at the exact same frame that you show. But It's very on-model as you say aha. Cut 23 totally looks like Suetomi I agree. I wanted to put Hideki Takahashi somewhere because it's the first episode of the "season 5" where his is credited for KA, so I expected him to have a significant role in the episode, especialy because Yuki Sato handled the Action Animaiton direction for 4 episodes, wheras Takahashi was alone on this task for the 13 episodes of the "season 4". This is why I assumed he was saving up time for a specific scene, and this cut was a good fit for him giving his famous cut on season 2. It's also probably just that planning was terrible and he had to ask for yuki Sato to help him out. Who knows, but I think hi is the most prone to have this "Suetomi feeling" in the actual staff.

The cut at :58 I don't think is Mukouda mostly because of the smears being uncharacteristic of him, there's still a chance its him but I kind of doubt it, definitely worth noting though. As for the cuts that follow its probably the most confusing part of the scene. I'd say 1:16 ~ 1:26 caught my eye for not looking much like Mukoudas approach (pretty weird but I'd rather say it now rather than never) then up until 1:25 is his work

Yeah I agree, It's true it's not really like him, but in the same time, some faces or particular stuff does. May be he supervised the scene and this is why there is this mixed feeling.

. I'd say the block is definitely not Mukouda because of the approach to anatomy and shading. It honestly doesn't look strongly like Fukuda but thats a better guess as the cut that follows is 100% one of them (likely mukouda again til the end of the post...???). I really don't know what Fukuda exactly did in this sequence but I'd like to know one day. Maybe its possible that Episode #22 took a lot of her time and she wasn't able to do many cuts for this one.

Yeah, I couldn't say who did the block (so what I would call cut 39), but I would bet that cut 40 (the close up on hands) is very very Mukouda. There is this way of drawing very defined nails and marks on phalanges (that reminds me of Tayou Matsumoto lol), as well as this very clear tendancy to mention this specific fold when the hand is under pressure ; what is something that I don't see often outside of his work. I think Mukouda for cut 40 is the most solid guess I have.

I really appreciate and enjoy you took the time to explain, it's fun to read and discuss about it !
(by the way, I'm Coca aha (if you're the Kam I believe you are))

ah crap I wasn't even aware :D nice talking with you mate. was fun indeed.

Glad to see I'm not the only one whose "Suetomi alert" got triggered at 0:57. I'd love to think he's done it NC but since it's more than unlikely I'm betting more on Sato, I feel like this moment and #139178 (https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/139178) share some of that realism.

0:40~1:09 is Boya Liang confirmed.

0:40~1:09：liang
https://weibo.com/1741198594/JAh70fNBz
https://imgur.com/a/2dlsEV3