Rough around the edges, but a really cool fight.

I like how she's swinging and slamming Goku so fast he's a bunch of smears.

goku literally just turns into a living smear blob

Awesome smears,this fight is underrated.

The smears where the best part. Really nice.

Nothing impressive about the smears. That entire sequence has been copied almost frame by frame from the ''Puny God'' scene in the 2012 movie Avengers Assemble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsUCRcK7QYc

tengemac said:
Nothing impressive about the smears. That entire sequence has been copied almost frame by frame from the ''Puny God'' scene in the 2012 movie Avengers Assemble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsUCRcK7QYc

Lmao,what a buzzkill.

tengemac said:
Nothing impressive about the smears. That entire sequence has been copied almost frame by frame from the ''Puny God'' scene in the 2012 movie Avengers Assemble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsUCRcK7QYc

One cut is similar -> "copied frame by frame" nice.
I don't like DB Super (nor its animation) but I can agree with the fact that it seems they are doing a good job on the new arc.

Bloodystar said:
One cut is similar -> "copied frame by frame" nice.
I don't like DB Super (nor its animation) but I can agree with the fact that it seems they are doing a good job on the new arc.

Meh, argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.It's not 'similar', it is identical. The pause of Hulk staring at loki is the only thing the animator didn't add. It's pretty obvious I meant that single sequence (cut) and not the whole clip, as that's the sequence that everyone seems to find the most impressive. But again, why use logic when one can argue for the sake of arguing ?

tengemac said:
Meh, argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.It's not 'similar', it is identical. The pause of Hulk staring at loki is the only thing the animator didn't add. It's pretty obvious I meant that single sequence (cut) and not the whole clip, as that's the sequence that everyone seems to find the most impressive. But again, why use logic when one can argue for the sake of arguing ?

It's pretty zoomed out to be significant to the overall cut. The heavy correcting is what hurts this scene (per usual with DBS), but you can tell the storyboard is what makes the action intense. They used that Hulk scene for reference but it's fitting, Goku is being treated like a ragdoll, hell it makes for a cool reference since Goku is a literal god. Definitely not the most impressive part of the cut by any means as you said.

Also just because something is a counter-argument to your argument doesn't mean its argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. That's just a convenient crutch for you to respond with.

tengemac said:
Meh, argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.It's not 'similar', it is identical. The pause of Hulk staring at loki is the only thing the animator didn't add. It's pretty obvious I meant that single sequence (cut) and not the whole clip, as that's the sequence that everyone seems to find the most impressive. But again, why use logic when one can argue for the sake of arguing ?

Why do you have such a problem with that small cut? It's AT MOST a homage to the Avengers movie, and even then I'd wager it's just a coincidence. Chill out.

Volt said:

Also just because something is a counter-argument to your argument doesn't mean its argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. That's just a convenient crutch for you to respond with.

(Also to rpoe88)

I agree, but creating an argument based around language used on an online message board isn't a counter-argument. It's pedantic. Especially when what I've written is true. That small animation has been copied pretty much frame by frame.
Her movement, her weight, the timing, the staging, the anticipation e.t.c of that small animation is more advanced than the rest. And that's because it's been copied.
And yes, I think it is meant to be a homage. I just find it funny that what people deemed the most impressive sequence of this entire fight is the bit that's been blatantly copied by another animator.

not really worthy of being posted here imo, too rough and crude looking

Can you stop being cancer and embarrassing the community for once in your lives. Every single post has the most asinine comments. Sometimes I don't blame the staff for considering banning all DB content.

Also, the scene is fine.

Ajay said:
Can you stop being cancer and embarrassing the community for once in your lives. Every single post has the most asinine comments. Sometimes I don't blame the staff for considering banning all DB content.

Also, the scene is fine.

Honestly,everything was pretty civil until you came along and insulted everyone lol,people should be allowed to debate animation.

Esasz said:
Honestly,everything was pretty civil until you came along and insulted everyone lol,people should be allowed to debate animation.

I'm not shutting down debate; I welcome it. Constant back and forth jabs are not 'civil', though. There's no debate here. It's bickering over a plainly obvious homage. Something being referenced does not negate the result. This isn't a Mastar Media tracing incident. The Boondocks has done similar things (post #2294), yet it's just appreciated for being executed nicely. Can't have that from DB fans, apparently.

As for its quality outside of that scene, there's plenty here that's fine. If post #36359 is apparently good enough, then so is this. You either create a base standard, in which case the site does away with its rating system and you end up with one type of animation, or you just accept that some uploads are just 'good', and not necessarily 'great' or 'favourite'-worthy.

And that's fine! There doesn't need to be a meltdown on every Dragon Ball post, especially when it comes from the same users time and time again.

My initial comment is overly aggressive, and I apologise, but it's tiring. I bite my tongue enough.

Thanks for clearing things up,dude.

Scenes of Dragon Ball always end up turning chats huh.

Perhaps this is just me being an ass, but I love how all the Dragon Ball fans are rushing to notice the homage to the Avengers, but ignoring how the episode in general heavily referenced Dragon Ball itself with all of the callbacks to Yama'uchi Shigeyasu's (who, coincidentally, is a better director than Joss Whedon) movies and episodes.

JacobYBM said:
Perhaps this is just me being an ass, but I love how all the Dragon Ball fans are rushing to notice the homage to the Avengers, but ignoring how the episode in general heavily referenced Dragon Ball itself with all of the callbacks to Yama'uchi Shigeyasu's (who, coincidentally, is a better director than Joss Whedon) movies and episodes.

Not all Dragon Ball fans, just me. Literally me, just pointing out that a small single animation, from a fight that is extremely average but does the job, is an exact copy of an animation used in a movie, and everyone seems to have reacted in a way that suggests I spat in their burgers.
They're either acting incredibly insulted that someone would have the 'audacity' to point that out, or as it would appear you are, making strange statements like ''ignoring how the episode in general heavily referenced Dragon Ball itself with all of the callbacks to Yama'uchi Shigeyasu's '' as if it's a real tribute to have a Broly type character grab people and just fly through mountains, and only the truly 'insightful' could comprehend that.
I'm curious to hear why you think Shigeyasu is a better director than Joss Whedon though.But this probably isn't the place for that.

Ajay said:

Also, the scene is fine.

Ajay Whats Is your opinion about the smear from 0;08 to 0:10? Its okay executed?

SmallMotion said:
Ajay Whats Is your opinion about the smear from 0;08 to 0:10? Its okay executed?

For me, yes. I'm someone who loves loose animation, especially when it's taken really far. Seeing Goku literally become nothing but a colourful smeary blob in plain sight brings me nothing but joy.

I imagine there's a particular group of people who might find it distracting and would have preferred the smears to be mixed between clearly defined shapes, and while that's a valid viewpoint, I certainly don't share it.

These comments bro, im now scared to type on specific posts now.